Open? Forum

Submitted by lmcshane on Wed, 03/14/2007 - 12:27.

What happened to the posting?  Is the attendance full?

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Don't know, will check on it.  I commented to the post last night and mis-spelled Gonick.  Norm, it seems the post has been removed...know why? who removed it?

I'm confirmed for the Web 2.0 meeting and believe it is open

I didn't remove the original posting - I thought it had some great comments. I'm registered to attend the Web 2.0 forum and believe it is still open... contact  Lora [dot] Veselsky [at] case [dot] edu to confirm. Iill see you all there.

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conversation at web 2.0

Despite feeling ill for the last several days, I managed to get to the event. I hope Sudhir and Derek will write in with their thoughts.  It was kind of like a buffet though we all got the menu with introductions made by each person attending who also shared their affiliations and their two ideas. Then, charette style, we separated into groups according to where we had placed our ideas.


I had come into the big meeting room in Dively a little late and found a chair, just as the event was beginning.  I happened to be seated next to Ed Morrison.  He reminded me in an aside that Alvin Toffler had just visited Youngstown.
Here's a link to the write up on Toffler's appearance there.
Here's a highlight:
"‘‘You can’t transform the economy without transforming the community,’’ he said.

New technology can’t be separated from the economy, from society or from the political reality. As the economy and society speed up, the mass-production system cannot be reformed, it must be changed, he said.

Today’s schools are as obsolete as the closed steel mills, Toffler said.

What the new institutions will look like will be determined through lots of experimentation. There will be many failures, but laughing at those with what seems like crazy ideas will reduce the willingness of others to try something new."

Interestingly this sums up the afternoon's event.  There was plenty of buzz and good ideas were flying. Lev addressed the issue of access -- all that fiber and how we cross the digital divide with devices, signals, etc.  He noted that Michael DeAloia had taken many arrows on that front and asked Michael to speak.  Basically, patience is a virtue.


There is a major effort to recycle devices from major institutions and anyone else (certified that the drives have been wiped clean of any and all data (this has been a stumbling block for corporations apparently) and can be reused -- I think he said RET3, but he was talking fast, so correct me if I am wrong).  I also need to check on my city's computer recycling to see what they do with the machines and the data as Cleveland Heights also offers curbside computer recycling now. Maybe they take them to RET3 Job Corp.

Anyway, I am not fully healed and perhaps thing will come into more focus as we continue this conversation.  But before I head back to bed, I just wanted to reiterate this quote from Toffler for our consideration, "There will be many failures, but laughing at those with what seems like crazy ideas will reduce the willingness of others to try something new."  I am excited to be a part of the effort, however late, however stumbling, however imperfect, however flawed.  Here in my glass house I am not prepared to begin throwing stones; I just don’t know enough. Maybe we are being suckered, but the energy of possibility and the sentiment of doing good (and well) was infectious.  Now… I hear the Epsom Salts calling…

Bridging the Digital Divide is not difficult

Thanks for starting the Cle2.0 dialog going. Sorry you've been ill and I hope you are well soon.

I stopped by Cle2.0 to touch base with Derek, and it was a Who's Who for sure - but I had to run to East Cleveland to continue training of all the assistants of directors of departments there so they can post content to the Drupal based open source Web 2.0 website we donate to, support and host for the city for free. Then, Abu and I stopped by the home of a senior citizen who lives there who we had given a computer last year to help bridge the digital divide there, running open source software, which was donated by Progressive. She needs help connecting it to the internet, so I'm going to find her a modem. I asked her if she likes having the computer, which she keeps perched on her dining room table (really lovely historic home - very creative soul and home - glorious being) and she said every morning she is glad to come downstairs and play games on it and she wants to do more.  I asked her if she knew how to email and browse the Internet and she said she has taken some computer classes in the neighborhood and loves that. Monday, Abu and I will go back, after work hours, and install a modem and get her on-line - I'm also going to replace the original install of Fedora with Ubuntu and set her free. None of this is rocket science nor does it require 3-D and Gig fiber (she'll be dial up for now... People PC through AARP at $4.95/month) - it is all so simple, and easy, and just takes some dedicated people to give their time to those in need... we're putting together a team of Shaw High students to help with this going forward. The reason so many such people are still disconnected is nobody with the knowledge to help cares to help. I'll take some photos when I return to her home, and share more of her story, so people here can start to understand bridging the digital divide from the eyes of those disconnected, as they are brought across to the real NEO world. I have heard many such wonderful stories from our humble efforts alone. I was sorry to miss the big show at Case, but this was one of those most rewarding days... always the case when I can help people in East Cleveland.

I talked to Derek and Sudhir about the Cle2.0 and look forward to their comments on it on REALNEO.

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stuff we saw and heard at web 2.0

The event was fascinating to me -- I am somewhere in that learning divide -- having jumped but not landed yet. Now being up on the blog scene here, you may have already noticed this link (it was posted by George Nemeth on BFD), but I thought this was a cool short video.

From Chris Varley: We’ve seen an incredible spike in traffic to the Shift Happens story line in Tech Futures. Clearly more and more people are becoming aware of the momentous changes taking place all around us. Now from one of our friends in California comes this amazing link to a pretty powerful video about the impact certain key demographic shifts are having around the globe.

Tech Futures: Shift Happens Every Single Day

and Lev's email invite included this primer: Web 2.0 ... The Machine is Us/ing Us

One of the most memorable ideas -- everyone got to put up two ideas -- was Tom Mulready's suggestion that we hold a battle of the bands with the Cleveland Orchestra and 4 other "top" orchestras from around the world. A summer event (?), this could provide another use for Brown's Stadium. What other facility could accommodate 5 world renowned orchestras? Add to that setting the Cuyahoga River on fire to link art and the environment and sounds like we could beat Providence Rhode Island hands down in the category of summertime river fests. Way to think outside the box, Tom.

There were so many good ideas like transparent and web enabled government, healthcare, transit, virtual art museums. You name it... there are surely more, but we definitely tossed out some good ideas. The original invite is still there on Lev's blog with the examples, and you can leave comments there if you have big ideas (or little ones) to add to the mix.

No timeline deadline was suggested and these things take time, so please know that private and public money and minds are working toward access and innovation. Everyday -- shift happens.

Norm -- your story of bringing access to East Cleveland is heartwarming. Thanks!