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Writing off debtSubmitted by lmcshane on Sun, 01/15/2012 - 15:42.
How is it that the NEORSD or any public entity can "write off" bad debt? http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2012/01/regional_sewer_district_writes.html Just wondering who exactly are these folks? Are the MAJOR outstanding bills due to companies, LLCs, or just mom and pop households? "Many of these are foreclosures," said Demmerle. "It's the second biggest amount," she said, comprising about 18 percent of the uncollectible accounts .... But about half the problem accounts belong to people who simply walked away from paying their final bills when they moved. (And the NEORSD does not have expensive legal counsel to pursue these bills???) Let me tell you something: Senior residents in my neighborhood have to decide whether they can afford the water or the sewer bill, and when they don't pay the sewer bill, then that lien appears on their property tax bill and the first installment of those bills are due on January 25th...hey NEORSD, can these folks get a break??? Here's a snap shot of a family I know well--both seniors, speak English as a second language, disabled--with NO mortgage on their home:
movindown January 08, 2012 at 6:44PM
I think this needs phrased another way..."Due to our incompetence at collecting money, we are passing the bad debt to our good customers."
That is the reality.
2023 reporting: https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/investigations/cleveland-water-keeps-losing-in-court-but-doesnt-stop-citys-questionable-spending-property-liens-shutoffs
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Writing off DEBT for rich folk ...LAND BANK!!!
....hmmm Lou Frangos and Gus Frangos can't seem to pay their taxes, either...LAND BANK!
http://www.cleveland.com/naymik/index.ssf/2011/11/its_about_time_cuyahoga_county.html
http://realneo.us/content/gus-frangos-president-and-general-counsel-cuyahoga-county-land-reutilization-corp-are-you-no
"Due to our incompetence at collecting money, we are passing the bad debt to our good customers."
http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2012/01/regional_sewer_district_writes.html
And, guess what! New tool in the tool bag--secret NST (Neighborhood Stabilization Team) database that allows CDCs to control information on properties primarily to help clear title on properties for addition to LAND BANK!
The collection of property taxes is the one of the duties of the County Treasurer not the Auditor. So why didn't Rokakis go after these back taxes? Could it be that these people were his buddies? Frangos? County Landbank?
exactly......Rokakis is like Mason.....corrupt or incompetent?
Exactly -- where are the non-denial denials from former county treasurer Rokakis in this story?
To whom did former county treasurer Rokakis grant tax "leniency" and why?
And where's the list of property owners who've owed county property taxes for the LONGEST periods of time? Who are the top 10 property owners who've been in arrears for YEARS? Who are they and why didn't Rokakis take appropriate actions?
I know there's no such concept as "accountability" in Cuyahoogie County. But Rokakis was in charge and owes an explanation to the dwindling number of productive and responsible citizens who've footed the bills and fiscally enabled misfeasance and malfeasance in county government.
Obviously it's not politically correct to call the saintly Rokakis into question. That goes against the Official Narrative and any scrutiny of Rokakis is trumped by yelling "Land Bank!!!" (whatever the heck that's supposed to be).
But the sordid details regarding these millions of dollars in delinquent property tax bills are a definite symptom of government corruption and would would tell some interesting new tales to which county residents are entitled.
Water Woes - City of Cleveland lacks accountability
Cleveland water department's shameful and costly omissions with billing contract: editorial
http://www.cleveland.com/opinion/index.ssf/2015/07/cleveland_water_departments_sh.html
How many bad water bills does the City of Cleveland "forgive" ?? ~ NEORSD wiped out debt in 2012 http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2012/01/regional_sewer_district_writes.html
Kill the Water Bill
Please see information collected at this site:
http://www.killthewaterbill.com/ (this site was posted in 2012 - no longer on line-see archive http://web.archive.org/web/20130129224515/http://www.killthewaterbill.com/ )
Thanks to Tom Kelly for this website and his efforts to promote accountability.
Structure of NEORSD is much like structure of Land Bank--intentionally designed to prevent accountability:
http://realneo.us/content/does-gus-frangos-president-land-bank-deserve-b... (note: this post was deleted)
Archived link:
https://web.archive.org/web/20121016192919/http://realneo.us/content/does-gus-frangos-president-land-bank-deserve-be-foreclosed-upon
https://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/cuyahoga-county-land-bank-ethical-conflict-of-interest-county-corruption-c641571.html
Cuyahoga Land Bank " Abuse of Discretion " deprived due process
According to a successful appeal, Cuyahoga County Land Bank officials got their hands caught in the cookie jar.
The Cuyahoga County Land Bank foreclosed on a business property valued at nearly $900,000 for delinquent property taxes in the amount of $ 37,889.90.
County Land Bank employees successfully foreclosed on the property and transferred the deed to the county land bank in preparation to cleanse the property of all liens - water, sewer, delinquent taxes, mortgages, etc.
Pretty good gig to get a property valued at nearly $900,000 for less than $40,000 owed in delinquent property taxes.
I wonder whom the land bank officials had in mind to give this property to since the property went straight to the land bank without a sheriff foreclosure sale.
No right to redemption. No due process.
Louis Frangos- brother of Land Bank President Gus Frangos- owes more than this amount in delinquent property taxes and has yet to be land banked.
And Gus Frangos - President of the County Land Bank - appears to have his own issues paying property taxes. Will Gus Frangos land bank himself?
The mortgage holder appealed the land grab and the county land bank had to transfer the deed back to the original owner.
In the successful appeal, the appellate judge blasted the Cuyahoga County Land Bank, as quoted below:
" This void means that board proceedings are not conducted under any consistent, identifiable rules. The absence of any standard procedures leaves the board with unlimited discretion, and that can lead to unfairness because the parties have no idea what they need to do to vindicate their rights. As a result, the board abused its discretion by ordering a remedy not prayed for in the only pleading allowed under its minimal procedural rules.
These were abuses of the board’s discretion and deprived the appellants of due process. "
** This case is an important victory to victims of the Cuyahoga County Land Bank. If you find yourself victimized by the county's land bank, read the above appellate decision in its entirety to discover numerous issues with the legal process in the county's land bank. **
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https://web.archive.org/web/20120902214509/http://realneo.us/content/doe...
Does Gus Frangos, President of the Land Bank, deserve to be foreclosed upon?
Former Cleveland Councilman Gus Frangos is the President of the Cuyahoga County Land Reutilization Corporation.
According to that website, Frangos led the charge for change to legislation around "establishing enhanced-capacity County Land Banks, and expedited administrative tax foreclosure policy".
The same site also touts "In September 2004, Mr. Frangos was retained by the Cuyahoga County Treasurer to craft legislation to help expedite the tax foreclosure process, specifically on vacant and abandoned properties."
Additionally "Mr. Frangos is the President and General Counsel of the Cuyahoga County Land Reutilization Corporation".
What a dream job. First, change some laws to expedite foreclosures, then create another entity that "reutilizes" land and then become President of it all.
A number of properties seized under the expidited foreclosure process were not vacant property, but were owner occupied for many years, and taxes were in arrears. The property of Freddie was in arrears for about $2,000, and though he had proof that he was making payments, his home, yes home, was seized under an expedited foreclosure and he was evicted.
How many times has this happened throughout Cuyahoga County? How many times has this happened to people who do not have the ability to fight back?
So is turnabout fair? Should Mr. Frangos have his property seized, under the same rules? Oh, wait, does Mr. Frangos actually own property? According to a former worker of Frangos, he does.
That worker testified to that effect (Judgement entry, Cuyahoga County Court, Juvenile Court, Case no. SU11703939). This is public record. Here is the interesting part:
The Court finds that the Plaintiff testified that he worked as a self-employed agent for Gus Frangous and that he oversaw and collected rentals for his properties. He testified that he worked at the properties at 6311 St. Clair, at 1168 and 1160 East 61st Street, and at two sublots on Queen Court, and that he is not the owner of those properties. He testified that Mr. Frangos did not quit-claim those properties to him nor did he go to Court for evictions proceedings as the owner. He testified that he never had any ownership interest in the properties through an LLC or otherwise. He testified that he did not receive rental income from the properties. He testified that he was no longer working for Mr. Frangous and the last time that he collected rents for him was six months ago. He testified that his last reported income from Mr. Fangous was on his 2010 tax return as part of his self-employment income with his construction company. He testified that he earned $10,000 in 2010 through his construction company and some from Mr. Frangous. He offered his 2010 tax return into evidence which was admitted. He offered copies of deeds of the properties into evidence which were admitted.
So is there a sleight of hand here that will say that Frangos is NOT the owner via the LLC? And that these properties were seriously tax delinquent? And that some still are? Will Cuyahoga County exercise the law to expedited foreclosure of the property purported to belong to the President of the Cuyahoga County Land Reutilization Corporation? Will there be a different type of process than that which Freddie was subjected to in his loss of his family home?
Thanks to the help of a buddy who researched for me, here is what he found:
Parcel No. 105-10-014 6311 St. Clair
Owner’s name 6311 St. Clair, LLC
Previous owner Gus Frangos
Gus Frangos incorporated the LLC Transferred from Frangos to 6311 St. Clair LLC on 1/9/03
Mortgage dated 3/23/05 – Gus Frangos signed mortgage as, “ Gus Frangos, Member 6311 St. Clair, LLC.
Delinquent property taxes $ 4,472.46
No property taxes paid since 2008
Parcel No. 104-13-069
1154 East 61st Street
Owner’s name 1158 East 61St Street, LLC
Previous owner John Stover Revocable Trust ( John Stover is Councilman in Parma)
Gus Frangos incorporated the LLC Transferred from Stover to LLC on 1/9/03
Delinquent property taxes owed $7,604.48 Delinquent since 2006
Parcel No. 104-13-070
1158 East 61st Street
Owner’s name 1158 East 61st Street, LLC
Previous owner John Stover Revocable Trust ( John Stover Councilman Parma)
Gus Frangos incorporated the LLC
Transferred from Stover to LLC on 1/9/03
Delinquent property taxes owed $ 10,405.35 Delinquent since 2007
1160 East 61st is not showing up in county records; a ride is in order!
Parcel No. 1051600
2 905 East 70th Street
aka Quinn Court Property Owner’s name Quinn Court Property
LLC Previous owner Gus Frangos
Gus Frangos incorporated the LLC
Transferred from Frangos to the LLC on 5/30/02
Delinquent property taxes in the amount of $6,341.67 was paid recently after being delinquent since 2009
Parcel No. 10516088
913-917 East 17th Street
aka Quinn Court Property Owner’s name Quinn Court Property LLC
Previous owner Gus Frangos
Gus Frangos incorporated the LLC T
ransferred from Frangos to the LLC on 5/30/02
Delinquent property taxes in the amount of $8,170.16 were recently paid after being delinquent since 2009.
Gus Frangos signed the mortgage as “ Gus Frangos, member Quinn Court Property LLC
Does Gus Frangos, President of the Land Bank, deserve to be foreclosed upon?
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Give Gus Frangos equal treatment?
Submitted by dwebb on Thu, 08/30/2012 - 22:54.
There isn't really any way to do this except equal treatment in the process. Other lost homes, not just property.
Gus Frangos' Banking
Submitted by JohnDoe on Fri, 08/31/2012 - 06:02.
Amazing this kind of activity is still on-going in this county.
Despite each property being delinquent and owing thousands in property taxes for years, not one single property mentioned above has ever had a property tax lien issued against the property.
Never been sold out to tax lien companies or by county property tax auction.
It is as if the delinquent property taxes were ignored for years - not only by the owner but by county officials as well.
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Gus Frangos deserves equal treatment
Gus Frangos deserves equal treatment under the same process that were applied to others.
tax liens not issued to Frangos
In order to get rid of some trash posting, I had to delete the below post. It raises a good point.
Gus Frangos' Banking
Submitted by JohnDoe on Fri, 08/31/2012 - 06:02.
Amazing this kind of activity is still on-going in this county.
Despite each property being delinquent and owing thousands in property taxes for years, not one single property mentioned above has ever had a property tax lien issued against the property.
Never been sold out to tax lien companies or by county property tax auction.
It is as if the delinquent property taxes were ignored for years - not only by the owner but by county officials as well.
too many layers
The Cuyahoga County Land Bank has too many layers for people to easily grasp.
lacking accountability at the Land bank
In theory, the concept of a land bank is laudable. But as a private, not for profit, that takes public money? The Cuyahoga County Land Bank is independent of County oversight, yet at the same time, dependent upon public county funds, as well as other taxpayer based funding.
And to have as President the very person who "crafted" the legislation to put the the LandBank into place smells pretty putrid to many.
The Plain Dealer interviewed Frangos on 9/18/12. To help people understand the layers :
".....Many believe it is a county agency.
In fact, it is a nonprofit community improvement corp., which he describes as a "marriage between good government powers and the flexibilities and powers of a corporation." Like government, it can do nuisance abatement, including demolition. Like a business, it engages in redevelopment, including rehabbing and selling properties."
Read the entire story at cleveland.com, here
Again, possibly good concept, but I think that it should not be in the hands of Frangos, and it should not be privately managed, publicly funded, and unaccountable to the taxpayers.
crafted by Frangos
The question is why the deliberate crafting of legislation to keep the Land Banks in Ohio from being under the control of voters?
"A CLRC is created pursuant to the provisions of R.C. 1724 and is, in effect, a different class of Community
Improvement Corporation (CIC); the legal status and rules that govern CLRCs and CICs are largely the same.
The CLRC functions as a typical non-profit corporation and is organized as an independent legal entity separate
and apart from the local government. The CLRC is also subject to the requirements of R.C. 1701, the chapter
that governs non-profits."
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Safeguard Properties expects to add 300 jobs with help of state tax credits
8:00 am, September 25, 2012
Safeguard Properties LLC, a provider of property preservation services and reporting on foreclosed properties for banks and mortgage companies, on Monday received state approvals for tax credits for the addition of a total of 300 jobs in Brooklyn Heights, Mentor and Valley View.
Safeguard told the state it expects to create 250 full-time positions in Cuyahoga County that would add almost $8 million to its annual payroll. The Ohio Tax Credit Authority approved a seven-year, 55% Job Creation Tax Credit for the company, Gov. John Kasich's office announced.
The state said Safeguard will add the jobs in Valley View and Brooklyn Heights, the suburbs where the company's current and prior headquarters, respectively, are located.
The state also approved a seven-year Job Creation Tax Credit for 55% of the state income tax paid by adding 50 full-time employees and $1.5 million in annual payroll in Mentor. Safeguard already has an operation at 8100 Tyler Blvd.
Diane Roman Fusco, Safeguard's director of public relations, declined comment on the company's plans.
PD editors want NEORSD slush fund to continue
http://www.cleveland.com/opinion/index.ssf/2013/10/let_northeast_ohio_regional_se.html#incart_river
Only the little people pay fees....
How is it that the NEORSD or any public entity can "write off" bad debt?
http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2012/01/regional_sewer_district_writes.html
Just wondering who exactly are these folks? Are the MAJOR outstanding bills due to companies, LLCs, or just mom and pop households?
"Many of these are foreclosures," said Demmerle. "It's the second biggest amount," she said, comprising about 18 percent of the uncollectible accounts
Water ... $$$ down the drain
http://www.cleveland.com/opinion/index.ssf/2015/07/cleveland_water_departments_sh.html
Comment archived:
The Utilities Committee is responsible for all matters related to Cleveland's water supply, sewage disposal, the municipal electrical light plant, telecommunications, public utility rates, railway and railroad operations, and the Northeast Ohio Regional Sewer District. This committee handles all issues pertaining to the city's Department of Public Utilities.
Chair: Terrell H. Pruitt
Vice Chair: Dona Brady
Members: Tony Brancatelli
Brian Cummins
Martin J. Keane Mamie Mitchell
Michael Polensek
Did this group of elected officials make the decision to not pursue any remedy to the debacle or are they just window dressing? Since the rate hike in Cleveland is by now 82%, how have they managed constituents impoverished by the increase? More social services to plug the gap? Foodbanks?
Remember this:http://www.cleveland.com/cityhall/index.ssf/2014/09/cleveland_water_department_fut.html
Will the Utilities Committee and Council continue to rubber stamp Jackson's rate hikes with no audit of the past debacles? They must be aware that via Cleveland Water, they not only represent the constituents in their wards, but many more ratepayers and water users throughout the region.
Instead of opining, it would be helpful if the sad sad PeeDee (who is admittedly crippled by it's owner corporation (Newhouse) and has only a shadow of a newsroom left) would dog the city to uncover what the real agenda is here. Is Jackson flirting with privatization? Does money slosh over into other funds?
What are the real statistics? How many water mains have been repaired, how many mains replaced, how many water shut-offs? How many billing debacles resolved? Are we Detroit yet?
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B&H does not govern past due taxes or delinquent water bills.
As for how many people, if everyone is in the same family, there is no limit. How is family defined in Cleveland Codified Ordinance?
§ 363.06 Family
“Family” means one (1) or more persons related by blood, adoption or marriage, or a family foster home, living and cooking together as a single housekeeping unit, exclusive of house-hold servants. A number of persons, but not exceeding three (3) living and cooking together as a single housekeeping unit though not related by blood, adoption or marriage shall be deemed to constitute a family. A family foster home shall mean a family related by blood, adoption or marriage as defined above with no more than five (5) foster children.
So essentially, no limit on a family, which is loosely defined. It is hard to prove as far as enforcement. For example, that is my cousin, we are related by marriage…….that is family.
If you have people that are not related by blood, adoption, or marriage, it is 3 per dwelling unit.
If it is a foster home, all of the “family” can live there in addition to no more than 5 foster children.
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