Joe Cimperman is ok with all of this. We know it. Why don't you?  He throws you a few bones and you stop barking at him, and go chasing after some other phantom. Wise up and stop being used by Cimperman. 

First of all orbit, you do know what making assumptions about anything does?  Second,  who says I'm chasing anything?  Third, I don't recall ever making a declaration as to who I did or did not vote for.  Fourth, I do believe that it is within our constitutional rights to vote for whom we damn well please and finally, I don't settle for bones.

My grandma always told me, "Sometimes if you stir the pot  too much, you will spoil the stew."  

You think I should wise up - what makes you think I'm unwise?  You refer to my chasing a phantom - no need for a chase when I can coax my prey into eating out of my hand.

As far as the voting matter, I just wanted it cleared up.  As of late, there've been several postings questioning my connections, slamming me for posting the positive things the Councilman has done and judging me for what some people are assuming.

As far as being a fool, well that remains to be seen - all in due time. 

A couple of other things I want to add just for clarity - while you are all nailing Councilman Cimperman to the cross, have any of you thought to ask why the Landmarks Commission did not stop the demolition of Frank's house, or the inspectors, or the Mayor, or Building and Housing Director Rybka, or Assit. Director O'Leary, or B & H Superintendant David Cooper, or TWDC Housing Committee headed up by Tim Jenkins, or the twenty individuals that gathered at a TWDC Housing Committee and voted in favor of demolishing Frank's house?  Any one of the above could have changed the course of events that took place.  Why is the Councilman the only one on everybody's shit list?

Clearly Orbit, some people's memory works better than others.  My grandma also used to tell me that mine was like a steel trap.

Orbit, I can't help it, I feel that I need to reply to the "asking me to not be a fool part of your post.

We often think of a fool as being a silly or stupid individual - lacking judgment or sense.  A fool is also often thought of as one being tricked or deceived.

 I notice that in postings on NEO the Councilman is referred to as " Simpleton" 

Being that "Simpleton" is a synonym for fool.

How am I to take that, are we both silly and stupid or.......are we both being tricked and deceived? 

Dbra, my memory works very well.  I don't think that anything has changed.  My feelings are exactly the same.  I do believe that you requested that there be no comments on this subject and from what I can see, most people have honored that reguest.  I stand by everything I said.  As of late, I only respond to some of the comments I find amusing. 

It's my prerogative to ask questions?.......and, it's time to move on.

I fully support Frank, really hope that he gets the back up that he needs and the assistance he needs.  No where in any comment that I've ever made will you see me say anything otherwise. 

mouth.

Would the demo and taking of Frank's property be justified, as you insinuate above?

I have never insinuated or said that it was justified.  Again, I have never said anything in anyway against Frank Giglio.  I can't get much plainer than that.

I cannot change what happened to Frank, but I can try to fight to keep it from happening to anyone else. 

You gave me a floggin' in a private e-mail and then when I conceded and stepped aside, you still don't want to let it go.

I don't think any of this has anything to do with Frank Giglio.  Sounds like two sore tale cats in a room full of rocking chairs - and that's no place for me.  Now, if you ladies.....and gents have a bone to pick with Councilman Cimperman,  stop catterwalling' and have a go at - but I'm not in the ring.  That does not mean you can start making assumptions either. Maybe if you get  it out of your system the fog will lift and you'll be able to see the forest instead of the trees.

So far, I've been in Cimperman's pocket, talked out both sides of my mouth, and now have been on an ego trip - man you give me too much credit. 

As far as pushing it to the public, you think you get to make innuendos and assumptions without anybody at some point making a reply.

As far as any confidence, I broke no confidence.  Do you have any idea how many people told me the exact same things you did - some told me a lot more and it was not in confidence and  most of it was in public conversations. 

I will tell you there was one thing I did not know - and after I inquired and you provided me the answer, I still haven't let that slip - however, someone else who read the post you put out on NEO, told me the story and I didn't even have to ask.  So - this stuff is not all a big secret like you think it is. 

There are numerous newspaper articles, posts on the old Tremonter, notes,  TWDC Board and committee minutes, etc., that go back years on the history of Frank and what happened to his property. 

You made your point that you thought I was over stepping my bounds and so I respectfully stepped back, closed the file I had on Frank's property and moved on to another project where my efforts and abilities could be better utilized and were welcomed and I wish Frank all the  best.   

I will reiterate myself.  I saw a lot of people on NEO who were and are willing to help Frank and a lot of the suggestions and ideas sound like really good ones - ain't that what it's all about?

I sent out the invitation to the fundraiser for Frank to my family and my daughter responded and said she would donate to help him pay off his property tax.  If we all tell someone that we know about what happened I am sure some of the people that we send the information to will also want to help. 

Just wanted you all to know that some people really do care and if we get the word out it could turn into a very good fundraiser. 

  I'll be the crazy woman with the sign that says "Stop the Tyranny."  I look forward to the event.  Thanks to all who put it together.  This Sunday.

 This fundraiser was a lot of fun. People came and went, donated, ate fantastic food, listened to music and signed up for future events. It was more than I had hoped for. The nicest thing for me was that I met Frank today. It as a pleasure to talk with him and know that he is being affirmed as part of the community. Frank was happy to see the outpouring of people that came to share their concern. A congressional staffer came on behalf of Congressman Kucinich to say that Kucinich had read coverage of this issue and is concerned about it. We will see how it goes; more to come. It is nice to know that while even in D.C., Kucinich is paying attention and is concerned about what is happening in his district.

please explain more about the dumpsters. what is a domestic goods dumpster? you can explain here or e-mail me. 

Also, who crushes houses into the basement these days? that stopped long ago (supposedly)? 

Does anyone know the name of the contractor for the demo?

  Crushing the whole structure into the basement...now, that explains the mystery demo on 2317 or 2319 Willowdale in Brooklyn Centre. 

House was there one day, gone the next...plowed over and seeded over, too.  I have asked repeatedly...who is getting this demo work?? 

I just remembered that the Giglio demo is on youtube, but I don't get the purpose of a domestic goods dumpster. 

into basements in very bad for the environment, think lead. The area sinks, and has to be excavated, releasing all that lead. It is not feasible to build over such areas, as this method of demo gives an unstable ground. We have many examples of this all over Cleveland, and this practice was to be stopped years ago, and clean fill dirt was to be placed in the basement up to ground level.

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MONDAY, JANUARY 12, 2009

CLEVELAND'S DEMOLITION MONSTER MAKES ANOTHER KILL

If you live in the Cleveland, Ohio, area and are interested in historic buildings, you almost certainly are aware of the historic house, built in 1903, in the local Tremont Historic District that was demolished, last month, by the City, against the owner's wishes. This event ignited a firestorm of controversy. This posting represents this blog's perspective on the matter. It seems there was a pronounced difference of opinion as to whether or not this house was in the sort of physical condition that could 'necessitate' demolition. But, it seems the more important topic is whether or not this building was demolished because the City's Building Department personally disliked the owner. It is an absolute fact that there are seemingly countless buildings, all around the city, that are in far worse condition than this house could have been considered by anyone -- buildings that have been that way for far longer -- and, somehow, this particular house's fate was seemingly "rushed". The Building Department has had several "run-ins" with the owner over the past several years. "Politics", indeed. It is nigh time that the long-standing 'methodology' in Cleveland -- a Building Code that isn't enforced, followed by easily 'enforced' demolitions -- needs to end. Sometimes it seems like there is more vacant lots in Cleveland than there are ones with buildings on them, and it sure seems like the City is pretty damn comfortable with that. [NOTE: The image accompanying this post is a Board Of Zoning Appeals photo, taken in 1981, of this just-demolished house, courtesy of the Cleveland Public Library's Photo Collection. The house still had its front-porch, at this time, as you see.]

POSTED BY CRAIGB AT 5:06 PM

Crazy wild ass speculation. Okay--as Lee Batdorf said--all we can do as residents, since we get no answers from public officials and and no investigation by the PD--here's my theory on demos in commercial corridors.    (ADD mystery fires and speedy demos to the arsenal...we have seen enough of these in commercial corridors, too....RIP Lancer's Restaurant--didn't take the Clinic's offer??  Now you will.)

MY Wild Ass Speculation??? Politicians and developers are working here in collusion for the land across Grace Hospital (to be a Wellness Center) to install a DRUG STORE.

The pattern has happened over and over and over ad nauseum....look at the track record throughout the City of Cleveland.  This is big money.  Recently, a house was demolished in a historic district here in Brooklyn Centre next to Steel Valley Credit Union.  The selective code enforcement and demolition crews worked fast here, too.   The CVS in the Coral Group plaza was abuzz with rumors of imminent closing, because of the drug store shuffle that occurred in Santiago's ward with Walgreen's.   More demos on the fly across from Metro hospital...for a plaza (with another drug store?).  Will politicians find a way to silence the gray-haired ladies....?

Now, go to the intersection of Fulton and Clark....Rite Aid vs. Walgreens!  The deal was to put a drug store at the strategic Pearl/Denison intersection--currently the location of  the Steel Valley Credit Union and Sal's Dinner are in Brooklyn Centre --conveniently down the street from the new NRP subsidized senior housing. 

Head up the street...Memphis/Pearl/Broadview and State --notice anything in Ward 15 formerly counciled by Rokakis/Gordon/Lipovan...and now, for the time being, Brian Cummins??  Right across from the Wellness Center??  Rokakis' family benefited from the demolition of the Glen Restaurant where CVS now occupies the prominent Pearl/Memphis intersection.  Down the street you will find a Walgreens and down Broadview--a Rite Aid.

Wait...it doesn't end in these west side wards!.  The Diocese tears down properties for drug stores, too! 

The altar boys....strike again.

Laura,

Have you figured out yet why they built one perfectly good drug store on Clark (Walgreen's) and then built another one and left that one empty?   To me that was one really idiotic idea.  Talk about wasting money. 

I give up Jerleen...this is the shit we live with in NEO...the Innerbelt will be moved west, so Frank Giglio's property will become very, very valuable and will increase in size as the Inner Belt moves west-- the houses on Fairfield Ave (to the west of the existing Innerbelt) are demolished...

Let's see--Tony Coyne (Planning Commission) and his friends stand to gain 4.5 million on the cold storage deal after forcing Fred Finley into bankruptcy and selling off his building at sheriff sale for $66,667....How much do you suppose Frank Giglio's property will be worth then?